On introverted intuition w/ Sara & Dan
Freyia is joined once again by Sara (she/her) and Dan (he/him) for her first Folie Á Trois - wink wink. All three identify as having INFJ cognitive preferences under Carl Jung’s 8 cognitive functions theory, of which introverted intuition is the dominant function - the primary lens through which they experience the world. In this round table discussion they dive deep into what is meant by introverted intuition, and share how they individually experience it.
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Content Warnings:
Brief mentions of psychosis, existential crises and spirituality.
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References:
Please listen to S3E2 (and if you are inclined, check out the supplementary content in the References section of that episodes’ shownotes) before listening to this episode, if you are unfamiliar with the 8 cognitive functions from Jungian theory.
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Apocalypse - Online Etymology Dictionary
https://www.etymonline.com/word/apocalypse
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Note: This video contains a rather racist quote by Charles Dickens that is not critically commented on. There’s also brief mention of “unhealthy food” which is not nuanced.
History Of Ideas - Capitalism - The School Of Life
Is This The End Of Capitalism - Joe Scott
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Burnout - Mental Health UK
https://mentalhealth-uk.org/burnout/#:~:text=What%20is%20burnout%3F,drained%20most%20of%20the%20time
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What Is Alexithymia - Emily Nagoski
https://emilynagoski.bulletin.com/q-a-what-s-alexithymia/?section=comments
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Extroverted Intuition (Ne) & Introverted Intuition (Ni) Explained - Mindf.cked
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David Lynch
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000186/
“Intuition is the key to everything, in painting, filmmaking, business - everything. I think you could have an intellectual ability, but if you can sharpen your intuition, which they say is emotion and intellect joining together, then a knowingness occurs.”
- David Lynch
“I don’t see any boundaries between any of the art forms. I think they all inter-relate completely. Talking about art is like dancing about architecture.”
- David Bowie
"In intuition a content presents itself whole and complete, without our being able to explain or discover how this content came into existence. Intuition is a kind of instinctive apprehension, no matter of what contents…Intuitive knowledge possesses an intrinsic certainty and conviction.”
- Carl Jung, Psychological Types
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What Is Extraversion & Introversion - Mindf.cked
Astrology 101 | The Difference Between Jupiter & Saturn - AIB
The Shared Origins Of Embodiment & Development - Peter J. Marshall, Troy M. Houser & Staci M. Weiss
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8416067/
The ubiquity of consciousness: cognition and intelligence in life - Anthony J Trewavas and František Baluška
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3245704/
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Note: At the 11 minute mark Jung compares intuition to triangulation
Intuition - Carl Jung (1957) - Human Nature
How to triangulate: to find your location in any terrain - Kieran Cunningham
https://www.advnture.com/how-to/triangulate
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INFJ: Ni & Ti Dynamic and Loop - Scott Morgan
INFJ Cognitive Functions | The Te Blind Spot (Extraverted Thinking) - Wenzes - INFJ Life Coach
How To Te Better - LiJo
5 Tips For Communicating Better With Intuitive Personality Types - LiJo
Quotes About Practice and Theory - Quote Master
https://www.quotemaster.org/practice+and+theory
TeSi (ESTJ) - Type In Mind
SiTe (ISTJ) - Type In Mind
https://www.typeinmind.com/site
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“There are half-a-dozen subjects that I return to time and time again, and that doesn’t bother me because most of my favorite writers do that, to hunt down the same topic or theme from different directions each time. I don't have stylistic loyalty. That's why people perceive me changing all the time. But there is a real continuity in my subject matter.”
- David Bowie
About Georgia O’Keeffe - Georgia O’Keeffe Museum
https://www.okeeffemuseum.org/about-georgia-okeeffe/
Door, Road, Line, Shape - Georgia O’Keeffe Museum
https://www.okeeffemuseum.org/door-road-line-shape/
On Doing Things More Than Once - Uniquely Aligned
https://www.uniquelyaligned.com/mag/2020/4/5/on-doing-things-more-than-once
Note: This is the scene we reference from the tv show ‘Breaking Bad’ where the characters of Jesse and Jane discuss Georgia O’Keefe’s series of door paintings
On doing things more than once - Edward Pugh
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Myers-Briggs® Personality Types Of Breaking Bad Characters - Danny Hernandez
https://screenrant.com/myers-briggs-personality-indicator-breaking-bad/
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Statistical Learning Theory - Ken Hoffman
https://medium.com/swlh/statistical-learning-theory-de62fada0463
The Hippocampus and Episodic Memory - Brain Explained
How We Make Memories - CrashCourse
Remembering and Forgetting - Crash Course
Statistical prediction of the future impairs episodic encoding of the present - Brynn E. Sherman and Nicholas B. Turk-Browne
https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2013291117
What Is Brain Fog? A Detailed Scientific Guide on Limited Cognitive Function - Jessica Migala
https://www.everydayhealth.com/emotional-health/brain-fog/guide/
Claude Monet - The National Gallery
https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/artists/claude-monet
What Is Sensory Memory? | Explained In 2 Min - Productivity Guy
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How Smell Triggers Memory - SciShow
Sense Memory - Nicholaus Garcia
Interoception: the hidden sense that shapes wellbeing - David Robson
The Theory Of Constructed Emotion - Lisa Feldman Barrett - Psychology Now
Emotional Memory - Andrea Roche Counselling
(Emotions and Memory) How Does Your Mood Affect Your Memory - Jared Cooney Horvath
More than cake: unravelling the mysteries of Proust’s madeleine - Clare Finney
Implicit vs. Explicit Memories - Micheal Greenwood
Not explicit but implicit memory is influenced by individual perception style - Kyoko Hine and Yoshiaki Tsushima
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5784939/
Muscle Memory Explained - E. J. S. Family Blog
Pavlov’s Dogs Study And Pavlovian Conditioning Explained - Saul McLeod
https://www.simplypsychology.org/pavlov.html
Gestalt Meaning - Gestalt Examples - Gestalt Defined - German In English - Gestalt - iswearenglish
Note: The author’s experience of Si demon is not wholly the same as Sara, Dan and I, but there are some overlaps. Like all psychology, the functions can show up differently in different people, and that doesn’t necessarily mean the theory is wrong.
Introverted Sensing: The Devil We Know? - INFJottings
https://infjottings.wordpress.com/2014/07/11/introverted-sensing-the-devil-we-know/
How Si and Ni See The Past Differently - Casual Cognition
Ni-Se, Ne-Si Speech Patterns - Casual Cognition
How To Si (Introverted Sensing) Better - LiJo
Si…all about Introverted Sensing (MBTI Cognitive Function) - Aimee Y
What Is Navel Gazing - Origin & Meaning - Grammarist
https://grammarist.com/idiom/navel-gazing/
Note: This is the etymology of the term navel gazing!
Omphaloskepsis - Online Etymology Dictionary
https://www.etymonline.com/word/omphaloskepsis
INFJ Depression & The Evil Ni-Ti Loop - Frank James
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Appraising The Brain’s Energy Budget - Marcus E Raichle and Debra A Gusnard
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC124895/
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What It’s Like To Have Inferior Extraverted Sensing - Frank James
Note: Mild fatphobic attitudes and mention of weight loss specifics.
INFJ and Physical Exercise: How To Increase Extraverted Sensing - Annie Sarah
The Effectiveness Of Proprioceptive Training For Improving Motor Function: A Systematic Review - Joshua E Aman, Nareen Elangovan, I-Ling Yeh and Jürgen Konczak
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4309156/
I Was Traumatised By Gym Class - Sara Smeaton
https://activeforlife.com/traumatized-by-gym-class/
The Trauma Of High School Gym Class - Peter Shawn Taylor
https://macleans.ca/society/health/the-trauma-of-high-school-gym-class/
Note: Fatphobic attitudes/language and constant mention of the ‘o*****y’ epidemic. (If you are not aware - I recommend reading HAES and Intuitive Eating’s critiques of the validity of the ‘epidemic.’
Negative Experiences in Physical Education Class and Avoidance of Exercise - Daphne Brown
https://scholars.fhsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1054&context=theses
What Is HSD? - The Ehlers-Danlos Society
https://www.ehlers-danlos.com/what-is-hsd/
Coordination Problems, Clumsiness Anxiety Symptoms - Jim Folk
https://www.anxietycentre.com/anxiety-disorders/symptoms/coordination-problems-clumsiness/
Impact of the Tach-Psych Effect while under Stress, Duress or Heightened Anxiety! - Diana Sorrentino
Somatic experiencing: using interoception and proprioception as core elements of trauma therapy - Peter Payne, Peter A. Levine and Mardi A. Crane-Godreau
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2015.00093/full
EDS and Tight Muscles: If My Joints Are So Loose, Why Do I Feel So Tight? - Mindy Nagel
What Is Survivorship Bias? | Definition & Examples - Kassiani Nikolopoulou
Understanding INFJ Intuition - Susan Strong
Physical activity from childhood to adulthood: a 21-year tracking study - Risto Telama, Xiaolin Yang, Jorma Viikari, Ilkka Välimäki, Olli Wanne and Olli Raitakari
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15766614/
Your voice can be a doorway to understanding your nervous system - Jessica Maguire
Voice Changes Anxiety Symptoms - Jim Folk
https://www.anxietycentre.com/anxiety-disorders/symptoms/voice-changes/
Speech, language, voice and swallowing in the Ehlers-Danlos syndromes - Angela Hunter
Note: Sara speaks of working on all cognitive functions, even those not in our ‘ego’ function stack - ie, working on extraverted intuition to improve our introverted intuition. This is part of Jung’s wider concept of individuation - becoming whole or complete, not rejecting any side of ourself.
Carl Jung: What Is The Individuation Process? - Academy Of Ideas
Developing Our Cognitive Functions - Erik Thor
https://youtu.be/JM5I6jSNG-s
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Ai For Ideation | How To Use AI To Brainstorm and Generate Ideas - Innovation Training
https://www.innovationtraining.org/how-to-use-ai-to-generate-ideas/
Note: These are the episodes on ‘Mindtygers’ I mention
On Mindtygers pt. 1 W/ Charlie - Folie À Deux Podcast
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/folie-a-deux-podcast/id1647878779?i=1000589605057
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5Enkxv6dbp2SbOHa182Ug3?si=5NakdWrGRJOUQYBCiCUYmw
Website: https://www.folie-a-deux.co.uk/season1/episode11
On Mindtygers pt. 2 W/ Charlie - Folie À Deux Podcast
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/folie-a-deux-podcast/id1647878779?i=1000589900435
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2jGr8YlaHDEDYoYxybYAXZ?si=eccwIkEtQzOdwnpeBSSvSw
Website: https://www.folie-a-deux.co.uk/season1/episode12
On Mindtygers pt. 3 W/ Charlie - Folie À Deux Podcast
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/folie-a-deux-podcast/id1647878779?i=1000590163200
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0If8v9gN1fAAhQoNgVU1KS?si=Ok23S-mFRyWILeO1guSPzg
Website: https://www.folie-a-deux.co.uk/season1/episode13
INFJ Organisation - I Speak People
Note: I, and I’m sure other INFJs, don’t experience the majority of what this particular person describes, but I think it’s a good expansion on what Dan described about being able to understand others better than himself.
Are INFJs Self Aware? | Challenging Misconceptions - You’re Never Sleeping Beauty
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Menstruality - Kate Codrington
https://www.katecodrington.co.uk/menstruality/
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Note: This video discusses the ways in which introverted intuition can be controlling.
How INFJs Ruin Relationships - Frank James
Note: This article mentions how extraverted thinking can be controlling.
Extraverted Thinking (Te): 10 Tell-Tale Signs & How to Develop Te - Lisa Sparrow
https://mypersonality.net/blog/article/extraverted-thinking#
Misplaced and/or Misdirected Extraverted Feeling (Fe) - Mbtilistings
https://mbti-resources.tumblr.com/post/150636719831/misplaced-andor-misdirected-extraverted-feeling
Note: Please be aware this article contains some Christian spiritual language and framing.
Helping…Or Meddling - Lynn Cowell
https://lynncowell.com/helping-or-meddling/
Coregulation - Jessica Maguire
Your Brain Secretly Works With Other Brains - Lisa Feldman Barrett
https://www.mindful.org/why-your-breath-is-connected-to-your-well-being-2/
People’s words and actions can actually shape your brain — a neuroscientist explains how - Lisa Feldman Barrett
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Credits:
H O S T
Freyia Lilian
G U E S T
Daniel David Allen
YouTube: https://youtube.com/@DanielDavidAllenChannel
Website: https://www.danieldavidallen.com
Sara Schemmel
Website: https://mindf-cked.square.site/
M U S I C
Foxhunt (he/him)
Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/foxhunt-official
S O U N D
Will Ainsworth (he/him)
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If you are concerned about your mental health, Folie À Deux always recommends turning to trusted members of your community first.
This is also a reminder to check up on your favourite people, even those you consider holding it together just fine.
In the words of Drs Amelia and Emily Nagoski:
“The cure for burnout isn’t self care, it’s all of us caring for each other.”
Access allowing, spending your time and resources finding a supportive professional you gel with can be invaluable to your journey.
If you are in crisis and you don’t know where to turn, Strong 365 hosts their own free 24 hour peer led online mental health chat which can be found here:
https://www.7cups.com/p/strong365/?wla=strong365
A thorough list of mental health helplines for a range of countries can be found here:
https://www.helpguide.org/find-help.htm
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